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PostSubject: Re: General Topic   Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:25 am

@lazodeuts:
I can assure you: you are not the only "naive idiot", as you mentioned, not to apply in English. Since it was up to us to apply in English, French or German, I also applied in German. Smile But, later on I also asked myself whether it would have been wiser to apply in English. I guess that for the preselection it doesn't really matter whether you write your application in English or German but just like Aneena said, during the final selection it seems to be a disadvantage. Now I will do another internship but if I would ever apply for a traineeship at the EU once again I would probably do it in English!
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PostSubject: Re: General Topic   Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:53 pm

koelnerjung wrote:
@lazodeuts:
I can assure you: you are not the only "naive idiot", as you mentioned, not to apply in English. Since it was up to us to apply in English, French or German, I also applied in German. Smile But, later on I also asked myself whether it would have been wiser to apply in English.
Same here. About a month ago I looked over my application again and I realized I'd done everything in German (I somehow thought I had applied in English). I was like 'Why did I do that??'. Especially since I'm used to writing in English, so it wouldn't have made any difference to me. I wish I could remember what the hell I was thinking back then... Mad
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PostSubject: Re: General Topic   Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:33 pm

If anyone is interested I just rejected a traineeship placement at Unit D.2 "Networked Media Systems" in DG.INFSO (Information Society and Media Directorate-General).

Contact them if you are interested as soon as they are looking for someone.

Best wishes and luck to every one.
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PostSubject: Re: General Topic   Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:39 pm

Hey malle000

exactly the same happened to me with the internship offer in Luxembourg. no interview just an e-mail offering the place.

Later it got a bit more confused with Brussels and another DG but I just clarified things today.

From which DG are you selected???

Lux could be nice, right???????
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PostSubject: Re: General Topic   Sat Dec 18, 2010 5:05 pm

dear colleagues,
it seems that a lot of ppl who got selected have a very specific educational background like technical, medical or stricte law background. I do not know maybe I am wrong. Is there anyone who got selected WITHOUT a stricte specialized field education such as political science or international relations?
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PostSubject: Re: General Topic   Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:41 pm

damianoos wrote:
dear colleagues,
it seems that a lot of ppl who got selected have a very specific educational background like technical, medical or stricte law background. I do not know maybe I am wrong. Is there anyone who got selected WITHOUT a stricte specialized field education such as political science or international relations?

I don't know about this round, but right now (started in October) two study friends of mine are doing one... With political science/business studies bachelor & european union studies master.

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PostSubject: Re: General Topic   Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:47 pm

myrskypilvi wrote:
damianoos wrote:
dear colleagues,
it seems that a lot of ppl who got selected have a very specific educational background like technical, medical or stricte law background. I do not know maybe I am wrong. Is there anyone who got selected WITHOUT a stricte specialized field education such as political science or international relations?

I don't know about this round, but right now (started in October) two study friends of mine are doing one... With political science/business studies bachelor & european union studies master.


thanks. at what DG's your friends are doing traineeship at? Refering to my first post i wasn't sure what to write in motivation letter if you are not specialized (education background stricte professional) Apparently that was my part that needs to be improved according to the feedback to my score, but i am not sure what to write besides what I could offer and what I would like to learn.any suggestions?
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PostSubject: Re: General Topic   Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:42 pm

damianoos wrote:


thanks. at what DG's your friends are doing traineeship at? Refering to my first post i wasn't sure what to write in motivation letter if you are not specialized (education background stricte professional) Apparently that was my part that needs to be improved according to the feedback to my score, but i am not sure what to write besides what I could offer and what I would like to learn.any suggestions?

One of them is in DG Relex (the one with the business background), the other one I'm not even sure, Energy or Competition or something (that I found so boring I forgot which one it is Embarassed )

But I think for both their units were related to their master thesis' topics...

So that's what you should try in your choices of DGs & motivation - to find some kind of a link between your background & the DG. Even if it is just courses you have taken or essays written on a topic, or through private experiences or whatever, bring forward a link between yourself and the areas of work in your chosen DGs!

E.g. last round my choices were more random, based on my personal interests, rather than academic background & experiences. And I didn't get preselected. This time I was much more careful with my choices (DGs Home & Development), and did get through. Well, I guess finishing my M.A. degree helped as well...

But let's see, if it will help me get selected at the end! So far I haven't heard a word... Sad

Good luck to you damianoos for the next round!
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PostSubject: Re: General Topic   Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:01 am

myrskypilvi wrote:
damianoos wrote:


thanks. at what DG's your friends are doing traineeship at? Refering to my first post i wasn't sure what to write in motivation letter if you are not specialized (education background stricte professional) Apparently that was my part that needs to be improved according to the feedback to my score, but i am not sure what to write besides what I could offer and what I would like to learn.any suggestions?

One of them is in DG Relex (the one with the business background), the other one I'm not even sure, Energy or Competition or something (that I found so boring I forgot which one it is Embarassed )

But I think for both their units were related to their master thesis' topics...

So that's what you should try in your choices of DGs & motivation - to find some kind of a link between your background & the DG. Even if it is just courses you have taken or essays written on a topic, or through private experiences or whatever, bring forward a link between yourself and the areas of work in your chosen DGs!

E.g. last round my choices were more random, based on my personal interests, rather than academic background & experiences. And I didn't get preselected. This time I was much more careful with my choices (DGs Home & Development), and did get through. Well, I guess finishing my M.A. degree helped as well...

But let's see, if it will help me get selected at the end! So far I haven't heard a word... Sad

Good luck to you damianoos for the next round!

Thank you for your quick response:) yes this was my first time applying and i did not get to be pre-selected. yes in the feedback i was told to focus mainly on my motivation. I am doing my masters right now in management, and i am choosing my major for the next semester. Yes i have to find the link with a DGs and academia and future career prospect. I was 4 points below the treshold so I guess having my masters done would add up to that, but this will be done in 2012. hopefully my application will be much better this time for october 2011, because i do not want to wait till 2012.
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PostSubject: Re: General Topic   Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:22 pm

Is everyone who hasn't heard a thing of the DGs waiting patiently? Compared to the other years, it is really quiet in this forum.
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PostSubject: Re: General Topic   Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:13 pm

EUcitizen wrote:
Is everyone who hasn't heard a thing of the DGs waiting patiently? Compared to the other years, it is really quiet in this forum.

EUcitizen,

NOOOOO! Not everybody is waiting patiently. I'm dying very slowly & painfully here.... bounce

Just got rejected by the EP today, so it is up to the Commission to take me! Wink

But I haven't heard anything yet, no emails, calls, nothing. And am getting more and more anxious each day, having second thoughts about my non-lobbying policy etc. pale

I just want to know!!! Even if the result is something I don't really want to know.

Good luck to you and well... what can we do other than wait. And wait. And wait some more!
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PostSubject: Re: General Topic   Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:32 pm

Hi guys,

No hearing from any DG up till now for me.
I've started to get nervous either. No lobby from my site. Maybe it was a mistake?

But, correct me if I'm wrong, they haven't choos all of the interns yet right? There is still planty of time to be choosen.

Patience, falks, patience! And keep fingers crossed Wink

I'm of good cheer Wink

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PostSubject: Re: General Topic   Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:52 pm

I guess I also have to wait until mid-January and pray for a miracle..!
Started my lobby campaign two or maybe three weeks ago. So far I've been told many times that they had already chosen or weren't entitled to take a trainee next year. What a waste of time..
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PostSubject: Re: General Topic   Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:30 am

@EUcitizen: so funny, that's how I called mine to.. lobby "campaign" Smile. What is your specialization/field of "campaign"?
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PostSubject: Re: General Topic   Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:03 am

I've started to get super nervous too, I'm on constant email watch! A few ppl on the facebook site seem to have heard from DGs but they seem a bit more specialised.

I got different advice about lobbying; one friend who did the stage this year didn't do any but another advised my to focus lobbying on one DG. I contacted DG EMPL but just got the standard 'Thank you for your interest...' response.

If the final selection date is mid January then there's still a fair bit of time for decisions to be made but it would be such a great xmas present to get some positive news this week!

Good luck everyone
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PostSubject: Re: General Topic   Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:21 am

Hey guys dont loose hope!!!! U might already be sellected and you dont know it.
It happened to me to be reserved without being contacted by emsil or phone
And i only learned it accidentaly. Some dgs wait for the official proceedures and mid-january!
So get optimistic and best luck to everyone.

Wonders never cease!!
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PostSubject: Re: General Topic   Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:33 pm

Hi everyone!

It's good to actually get some optimistic vibes from this forum, thanks nefeloca!

I also got my rejection from the EP yesterday, but I'm still hoping for positive results from the Commission Smile. Although my lobbying so far didn't get me anywhere. I lobbied other DGs apart from the preferred ones. But no one contacted me by now Sad...Still, I think lobbying is both good and bad. On the good side, at least I know I gave my best to attract attention by sending those e-mails, so what is important for me is to know that I've tried. But there are so many uncertainties with lobbying- coz when we send e-mails to the Heads of Units, it's often that they might not be having any posts that term. And I doubt all of them reply- sorry no posts available. I got only one such response, but who knows maybe not all of them bother to read all our e-mails and reply back.

My logic tells me those DGs that decide before Christmas should let us know about the outcome these days. I suppose those are the ones at most popular, which by now received tons of e-mails and will probably want to get over with the selection. (At least according to the dates you guys mentioned). And what can happen in January is either get selected by a less popular DG or be offered a post that someone rejected. What do you guys think?

I'm also interested how important this traineeship is for you. Would you guys turn down a job, if you get one by March, since there is quite a lot of time by then? Or would you go for a steady job, coz you never know what happens after this traineeship. I mean employment is huge in Europe...Well I'm just curious about your prospects Wink.

Good luck to all! Hopefully we'll all get selected Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: General Topic   Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:49 pm

correction- I meant: "unemployment is huge".
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PostSubject: Re: General Topic   Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:19 pm

Hey Lycka,

as I got it from my experience in getting in contact with people from different units,
some DGs that you were never thinking of might find your cv interesting and they reserve you or maybe someone has rejected a position you never no, so before the official answer in mid-january nothing is lost!!!

I telll you so cause it has happened to a friend of mine, he was not contacted at all and finally he was selected. As he later learned he was reserved in the blue book since the first days after the preselection results but the people of his unit were a bit bureaucrats and wanted to do everything by the book. so patience and hope!!!1 I hope that you will be selected!!!!

Personally i was looking for a job seriously before the traineeship offer and after the results i refused to attend the interview for a good job. I still have doubts but i thought that it's now or never and hope that i wont regret. unemployment is HUGE indeed but i didnt want to miss a good opportunity cause of the fear of unemployment!!! we are young and we ought to chase our goals!!
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PostSubject: Re: General Topic   Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:20 pm

*you never Know i meant Embarassed
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PostSubject: Alternative plans?   Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:30 pm

lycka wrote:
Hi everyone!

I'm also interested how important this traineeship is for you. Would you guys turn down a job, if you get one by March, since there is quite a lot of time by then? Or would you go for a steady job, coz you never know what happens after this traineeship. I mean employment is huge in Europe...Well I'm just curious about your prospects Wink.

Good luck to all! Hopefully we'll all get selected Very Happy

Hi lycka!

The question you raised is a very interesting one.

Personally I am in the lucky position that I don't actually "need" this traineeship, or even worse, it would actually complicate my life quite a bit.

Namely I'm currently studying for my second master's degree, which I have to finish by the end of August or I have to pay quite a bit of money for continuing it. Also I have a job with my national government waiting for me to get back to, so even if I would be prepared to invest the money to do the traineeship first (if I get it) & finish the degree afterwards, I'm not sure if my employer will allow that. Actually my employer is currently trying to lure me into getting back to work earlier than I originally planned.

And to make the mess complete, my dear hubby would actually like to stay in the NL, where we are living right now, as he has quite a decent (and permanent) job with an institute that is part of the Commission's DG JRC. Ok, I guess we could survive the five months, but we've been long-distance before, and it is not really for us...

So even if I would get an offer, I'm not 100% sure, that I would accept it. I probably would, but I can't be sure yet... I'll see what happens, if it happens! Wink

What about you?
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PostSubject: Re: General Topic   Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:06 pm

Hi myrskypilvi,

Thanks for sharing your story. It's good that you have options to choose from. I know everyone wants the best option to happen, but sometimes it's better not to plan and just choose whatever makes you (and your hubby) happy Wink. I hope you'll make the right choice, with or without the this traineeship Wink. Well, preferably with Smile

On my side, well it's also tricky. First of all I come from an EU- candidate country. So my options from the beginning are limited. Especially when it comes to this type of EU traineeships, unfortunately, only a few non- EU candidates get admitted. I've also applied for PhDs in Political Science in Denmark, made it half way through the process, but at the end although I was qualified for the Program, didn't receive a scholarship :S. I was actually very enthusiastic about doing one, but the competition is simply too tough...

I actually just did my Master's in Sweden- spent a hell of a lot of money, which I thought would be worth spending. Now I'm back home again and confronted with a jobless market, not to mention corrupted job positions, only available for people very close to the ruling party. This sucks big time, coz no one cares about your qualifications, you just need to know the right people. That's why I prefer to move abroad, or at least get some working experience, which could help me to find a better IR or EU integration related job in my country.

So, all I can do is think positive and everything will work out just fine...Smile

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PostSubject: Re: General Topic   Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:25 pm

nefeloca wrote:
Hey Lycka,

as I got it from my experience in getting in contact with people from different units,
some DGs that you were never thinking of might find your cv interesting and they reserve you or maybe someone has rejected a position you never no, so before the official answer in mid-january nothing is lost!!!

I telll you so cause it has happened to a friend of mine, he was not contacted at all and finally he was selected. As he later learned he was reserved in the blue book since the first days after the preselection results but the people of his unit were a bit bureaucrats and wanted to do everything by the book. so patience and hope!!!1 I hope that you will be selected!!!!

Personally i was looking for a job seriously before the traineeship offer and after the results i refused to attend the interview for a good job. I still have doubts but i thought that it's now or never and hope that i wont regret. unemployment is HUGE indeed but i didnt want to miss a good opportunity cause of the fear of unemployment!!! we are young and we ought to chase our goals!!

Hi nefeloca

Thanks for sharing your and your friend's experience. You're right, giving up is not an option. We'll just have to wait for the final answer.

I agree- it's worth trying out your chances on this traineeship- I mean it's a big thing getting so far. Personally, I also kind of stopped checking job adds, sometimes it's more productive to pay attention to one opportunity, than just simply applying everywhere, or even worse accepting a job that's not really your field...Hopefully the wait will be worth.
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PostSubject: Re: General Topic   Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:20 pm

lycka wrote:


So, all I can do is think positive and everything will work out just fine...Smile


Hi lycka,

thanks for you supporting words & sharing your story as well.

You are so right - only thing we can do at this point is wait with a positive attitude. Although I would very much appreciate a nice Christmas present from the Commission. Wink

Well, they still have few working hours to go. Otherwise, we will just get one more extended lection in patience!

Merry Christmas to those who celebrate it, and a happy new year to everyone! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: General Topic   Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:44 pm

Hi guys! Smile

No mails, nothing...really frustrating Sad Well it is better than negative response...

Anyway, thank you for sharing your stories...my story is that in my country now there are NO jobs for anyone...(non-memeber country). For basic jobs with no diploma needed, they get more than 700 applications so you can imagine how people are desperate...So, it is either Bruxelles or nothing for me for now! Very Happy I tried voluntering, but that is soooo complicated too and you have to pay for your social security and stuff...and they stilll don t want you! Frustrating...

I am furthering my education though, since there is nothing else, but that is flexible and all obligational lectures will be done by March.

Good luck to everyone and Merry Christmas who celebrates! santa
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PostSubject: Re: General Topic   Wed Dec 22, 2010 2:07 pm

[quote="Shalimar"]Hi guys! Smile

No mails, nothing...really frustrating Sad Well it is better than negative response...

Anyway, thank you for sharing your stories...my story is that in my country now there are NO jobs for anyone...(non-memeber country). For basic jobs with no diploma needed, they get more than 700 applications so you can imagine how people are desperate...So, it is either Bruxelles or nothing for me for now! Very Happy I tried voluntering, but that is soooo complicated too and you have to pay for your social security and stuff...and they stilll don t want you! Frustrating...

Hi,

I was a volunteer in Brussels and now I am still here. European Volunteering Service is a great program, they provide accommodation, food, pocket money and if you 're lucky, a nice projec"Smile It's worth trying if the traineeship does not tourn out in a positive way.
http://ec.europa.eu/youth/youth-in-action-programme/doc82_en.htm
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PostSubject: Re: General Topic   Thu Dec 23, 2010 10:35 am

hey guys) Is it true that even a negative response is to send all the applicants anyway? I mean that even if the DG doesn't accept your application they will inform you in this case? thnx.


Is there anybody who applied for the traineeship at Home Affairs?

Good luck to all of you.
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PostSubject: Re: General Topic   Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:07 pm

Therion wrote:


Hi,

I was a volunteer in Brussels and now I am still here. European Volunteering Service is a great program, they provide accommodation, food, pocket money and if you 're lucky, a nice projec"Smile It's worth trying if the traineeship does not tourn out in a positive way.
http://ec.europa.eu/youth/youth-in-action-programme/doc82_en.htm

Thanks a lot for the info, I`ll definitely check it out! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: General Topic   Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:27 am

Hello everyone!

Just a quick post to use the chance before New Year's Day to say thanks to all off you because your comments and the will to share made this whole process much easier to bare and cope with, regardless of the final results. Waiting does kill every ambition, but it's best to hope for the best, eh? Very Happy

Has anyone considered buying Aneena a lot of thank-you-very-much-for-your-help drinks? Whoever gets to Brussels should do that!

Lycka, I completely understand your story, we're probably neighbours of some sort, as I am from a country very close to almost all candidate ones. Very Happy Nevermind. Good luck everyone.

I wish you all Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!!!
Hopefully Santa will be based in Brussels this year. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: General Topic   Mon Jan 03, 2011 4:57 pm


Happy 2011 everyone!

Thanks for sharing your story Nefeloca, I'm glad to hear there still might be a chance!

@ XabaCs: I think my campaign was not different than yours and the others on the forum, I've sent some e-mails to the DGs and tried to call some HoUs. Some people from HR mailed me back and told me to wait for the news of the Traineeship Office. They also told me that the application can be considered as unsuccesful if you haven't heard anything by the 31 of January 2011, when did you receive the good news Nefeloca?
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